Your Say Thursday: Has Immigration Affected Maternity Services?

It's that fateful day again, ladies and gentlemen. This week's Your Say Thursday was going to involve guest publication 'The Daily Express' and their Have Your Say segment which is usually populated with even more hapless thickies than the BBC's offering. I had it all lined up and ready to go for you, but then I spotted what I believe the Americans like to call a doozy of a question over on the proper, British Broadcasting Company Have Your Say site: Has Immigration affected maternity services? True to form, it brought out plenty of the Armchair Adolfs that you all love, so I've snipped out just the very best for your enjoyment.

They are welcome to use our services that we have paid for.

All they have to do is present their credit card, cheque or cash when they check in ..... just like we have to when we are in foreign countries. All I ask is they pay the cost, not a commercial price to cover what they will take out of the pot to which they have not contributed.

We must be absolutely mad and the laughing stock of the world
[meribelman], Cardiff, United Kingdom

Dear Meribelman, an enquiry: how many babies have you birthed in foreign countries in order for you to come to this obviously educated conclusion about how they work? Or could it be that you're talking out of your ill-educated arse? Here's the deal: name me three countries in which this is the case and I won't come round to your house and paint the word 'NUMPTY' on your genitalia. I'll even start you off: America. But remember if you ever go to the States and manage to fall down and break your leg (heaven forbid), you have officially forfeited any and all right to complain when they won't set your thigh for less than $1,000.

And they wonder why they create so much resentment.
J W, Leeds

Yes, naughty immigrants, having children and that. Honestly, of all the reasons I've heard for immigrants stirring up resentment - blowing everyone up twice a day and three times on sundays, their ignorant insistance on knowing a language other than English, their blantant insistence on not being from Dagenham - the fact that they have the biological capacity to reproduce was never one I thought would figure very highly. Unless you're a loony like JW, obviously.

Tragically, the world lost many sons and daughters doing that in World War II...and now, one might ask, was it all in vain?

Many in Britain are now concerned that today it may have been.
[PIKU-2]

Yes, Piku, there's almost as many immigrants and foreigners running around now as there would have been under that notorious multiculturalist, Adolf Hitler! Oh wait. I do enjoy it when people sit around and invoke the memory of Churchill and the Battle of Britain when attempting to justify opinions that Rudolf Hess would have been ashamed to utter in public.

If we're talking about legal immigrants then there is no arguement. They're entitled to care. If however, we're talking about medical tourists, then no, they should not have their babies for free.
KAREN BRIDGES

While we're at it, Karen, can we do something about the 16-year-olds that get pregnant, fart out little baby Campari and then sit on their fat pockmarked arses for the rest of their days draining money from the government teat? Or does charging for babies only apply if you're brown? Oh I see, you're fine with your taxes going to British tax leeches, just not foreign tax leeches. Let's make a deal, I'll pay all the tax you pay on Polish couples to come here and have their babies, while you can pay all the tax I pay on setting Darren and Stacey up with their new council house for baby Ronaldo, OK?

I have been working in Japan recently. The stark contrast when I return to UK makes me think I have travelled from a developed to developing country - we are going backwards fast. The Japanese are patriotic, proud, look after their own first - foreign people are even excluded from a lot of bars in order that the Japanese can enjoy them the way they like without being disturbed by people with different cultural ideas to their own. This stretching of maternity services appalls me - just wrong.
[andysurf100], St.Austell, United Kingdom

You've got the right idea there, Andy, but why not push it further? Instead of just excluding them from bars, lets exclude them from English restaurants as well, so we can enjoy our fish and chips without being breathed on by a forrin. While we're at it, let's make them sit at the back of the buses as well. Actually, let's not even have those nasty forrins working with us! I for one don't want any dirty forrin infecting my air. Let's send them all to work on farms, I hear the British cotton industry needs a good shot in the arm. Welcome to the slippery slope, Andy. Don't fall and break your hip or anything, you chronically addlebrained mouth-breather.

Immigration affects not only the NHS but everything and everyone... since this is expense to the taxpayer whether legal or illegal.
David Smith, Leigh, Lanc's., United Kingdom

Hasn't affected me. Hasn't affected my family. Hasn't affected my friends. I'm not saying I went out and researched this, but then again, neither did you. Either way, your point just died on it's arse, as does everyone else's that makes sweeping claims like "everyone is scared of people with beards". If you want to make a convincing argument, you're better off referring to specific examples, sort of like this one: You, David Smith of Leigh, Lancs, are a top-drawer idiot.

If you say "Yes!" and agree that immigration is a major cause for concern and the breakdown of ALL public services in this country; you will be branded RACIST by the PC liberal left.

If you say "No!" and believe that we should continue with our open door policy and disregard the fact that it is a major cause in bringing about a breakdown in our society; you are either BLIND or an IDIOT.
[jerryatric], BARNSLEY

You choose, Britain. If you say "Yes!" and agree that immigration is a major cause for concern and the breakdown of ALL public services in this country, you will be branded a sensationalist cock, by me.

If you say "No!", some right wing idiot from Barnsley hiding behind a 'clever' nickname will make the heroic effort to engage his CAPS LOCK key to berate you with playground insults because of his inability to grasp the concepts known to all rational human beings of "debate", "middle ground", "compromise" and "please just fucking die". Why are you concerned anyway, jerryatric? It's not like anyone in their right mind ever wants to go to fucking Burnley anyway, so you're probably safe from the brown people for now.

Get a grip. Those of us who were born in the UK (I'm 62 and can trace my ancestry back over 300 years) would like our country back.
Colin Shepherd, Farnham, United Kingdom

Erm, congratulations on being quite old? What do you want for that, a Rich Tea biscuit? If I manage to trace my family back earlier than 300 years ago, do I get more of the country than you? A hundred or so years ago, a good chunk of my family was Romanian, so can I swan over there and claim a nice little apartment in the Jewish quarter of Budapest as my birthright? I met a bloke once who was part English, part Dutch, part Swedish and part Guyanan, he could get a bloody empire going if he heard about this. Think things through, for crying out loud.

Immigration has effected every walk of British society. Guns and knives are being used against youngsters and considered normal practice in some countries where these immigrants emanate from ... Its scandalour. Joy
Joy Pattinson, ROLLE, Switzerland

The fact that the 'youngsters' being nicked for all these fathers-of-three being kicked to death in the street are all pasty white kids called Darren is a coincidence then? Maybe they've all been framed, and it's all one big bastard called Talumu Umbekwe going around birthing babies and stabbing pensioners all over the shop; would that make it easier on your dinky little brain, Joy? I'm not denying that people of all creeds and colours commit crimes, but making out that Britain was some sort of crime free haven of justice and freedom and only turned into this crime-ridden cess-pit when the damn dirty forrins turned up is frankly ludicrous. What do you know, anyway? You live in fucking Switzerland. Shut up and get back to your ski'ing.

Anyway, that's enough for today, my brain is starting to dribble out of my ears.

Looks to me like Fabio Capello's first England squad is up and it looks like a good one, I might post about that a little later if I'm not in the pub. Things ought to settle down now with the blog as the crisis with work has now passed, so I'm ready and able to get on with the serious matter of telling the internet that I'm an arsehole. Blogger's apparently going down again early this morning, though, so that ought to be fun. Domain name soon. Promise.

Goodnight.

Edit: Oh cock. Ballsed up that title a little bit, didn't I? Fixed now.